Today’s Church isn’t working for many

January 12th, 2016

It’s a sad day when one realizes there just isn’t a church to go to for worshipping God … and dare I add “like we used to”?   I realize that when the baby boomers began to attend church as adults, they began to change some things.   The parents had dutifully taken their entire families to church for the weekly morning Bible Study and worship service and baby boomers continued this habit for quite a while.

What was kept was the basic outline of the service (liturgical service).  What was added were more group studies and activities.  No longer were babies only to be in the church nursery but were welcomed into the service with the rest of the family, and if one became unruly, there was a soundproof (complete with a speaker to hear the sanctuary proceedings) and windowed (to watch those proceedings) room at the back of the sanctuary.

What was also added was “children’s church” where slightly older children who tend to become bored and would color or flip through the hymn book or bother the parents could go during that golden hour.

None of these changes really eliminated anyone from worship and most would say it enhanced the service time.

But the church service of today has so drastically changed it left the baby boomers (and older) far behind and with no place to worship God.  How selfish.

The sanctuary is the auditorium now.  There are no choirs; these have been replaced by drums and guitars and fog and smoke and strobe lights.  There are no pulpits, no robed or even suited ministers, and in many places there are no crosses. There are no hymnals for these have been replaced with overhead screens flashing short feel good lines of ditties a child sings…gone are the deep doctrinal hymns of compassionate worship.   The names aren’t “church” oriented either… now they are experiences, fellowships, gathering places and centers.  Gone also are the times to be able to enter the former sanctuary to sit and reflect and prepare to worship…no, in fact one cannot even enter the auditorium until the over-the-door time clock says you may enter.

While much of this has to do with the following of apostate Rick Warren and his some 2500+ groups of merry men who follow him, all in the name of Allah (well, it is Warren who says the changes are so the gospel doesn’t offend the muslims and we all worship the same God by any name).  Blasphemy!

And there is no where for the aged believer to worship.  I have to believe this is why there is an increase in middle-aged depression and suicide.  The place held so dear, the place to go with worries and concerns, the place to go to fellowship and praise and worship the very Living God has been hijacked for the young.  They’ve been left in the dust and ignored, treated as others who have nothing to add to today’s society.  How wrong these younger people are…in their feel good jump up and down shows.

That kind of easy-believe-ism never lasts for as soon as the show is over the feelings fade and life tumbles back in.  If it weren’t for the home small group gatherings they would have no foundation at all I fear.  But surely not all 10,000 are studying with others in homes?  No, they just come for the jump up and down and feel good show…isn’t Jesus wonderful!  Yes, of course He is.  The show is not.

With the onset of religious programs on tv/cable, the older believer could do some worship and study there, but even this now has been inundated with millennial preachers pushing the same agendas that they force in the smoke and mirrors shows in the auditoriums.  Truly the older than 45 crowd has nowhere to worship.

It’s the end of days, the end times, the last few months or years before Yeshua returns for His followers…and He warned us of these types of changes.   I have but one more true church to visit now, to see if I might have a place where God is.

No, the young people’s  hype-type of “church” isn’t working.  Not even for the younger people attending…for the number one cause of death among young people is suicide.

I doubt there is time to get them back on track; they have long since ignored and refused the wisdom of the elders…and we are too tired to try any more.

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Candy Crush Crush Crushed

October 24th, 2015

I’ve had it with King Candy Crush apps.   I played the original Candy Crush Saga to over 400 levels when I had to get a new phone… and I lost my level.  Lost Gone.  No “backup” had saved it.  It wasn’t just a quick discovery either, that all my time and effort had vanished into thin air… it took over a week of trying and asking and doing and trying.  It was all to no avail.  I promised myself I would not play Candy Crush Saga ever again.  I haven’t.

 

But then they came out with Candy Crush Soda Saga.  I said, Self, this is a new game and I would normally begin at the start anyway…so away I went.   I play these games to clear my mind, really!  You cannot be thinking about anything IRL or in a future life if you want to advance the level.  It’s very therapeutic to me.

 

So I played and played the Soda Saga… nearly to level 200… and well, I had to get a new phone…but not just a new phone this time, an upgrade.  I went from a 4S to a 5S (yes, I stay behind the running top format)…  and yes, once again I lost my Candy Crush Soda Saga game level!!!!!!!!!   I’ve been ffrustrated for weeks… but playing Cookie Jam and Pet Rescue and Words With Friends has kept me sane and not thinking about how crushed I am about Candy Crush.    Actually, in the back of my mind I kept thinking there must be a way…  I have the level on my 4s, saved in iTunes… but the level on the 5S is  “1”.

I tried through facebook  (I DO NOT operate a FB account, btw, it’s only for game playing so others can send me lives… I had no idea it kept the levels on the games!  I was slightly excited.   But nothing was working…  iTunes kept saving my 4s level in my 4s backups and my 5s level (if “1” is a level) in my 5S backup and never the twain could meet.    So when someone said it’s saved in FB … I went there.

I don’t know how, but FB when I went to save my 4S game level there, via connection of my notebook since I no longer have that phone “serviced”…  it saved ON MY 4S iPhone… level “1”.  :(   I’m soooo angry that I have allowed a stupid game to get me so disappointed AGAIN!.

WHEW!  I just restored my 4S from the backup before I began messing with all this tonight…and YAY I have the higher level on the 4S again.  BUT part of the problem is that though this game is showing on both phones (at different levels grrrr)  it DOES NOT SHOW in the list of APPs on the iPhone… not on either list…  though all my other games do show on both (at varying levels.)

 

I’m trying again through iTunes… nope.. Candy Crush Soda is not showing on the app list… though it does show in the pictures of the 4S’ screens.  I don’t get it.  Obviously, I won’t get it either… if it isn’t in the list… ????  I’ll try from an earlier backup but might lost 50 levels… grrrr maybe I won’t.  Why doesn’t it save the APP  THIS APP on my backup to iTunes????  Not from either phone.

IDK how to solve this.  But King seems to know of this type of issue as there are many panicked requests for help on the net… perhaps King revels in this frustration.

 

PS I don’t use the cloud but I”ve read that it doesn’t back up the levels on the games anyway, only the game programs.

 

So to say at this point, my crush on Candy Crush is crushed.

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Message from Franklin Graham

July 9th, 2015
July 2015
Sin Not Only Reigns, But Is Now Celebrated.

Franklin Graham

 

Dear Friend,

On June 26, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that same-sex marriage is legal in all 50 states. This is a defining moment for our nation.

Long before our government came into existence, marriage was created by Almighty God—the One who created man and woman. He is clear about the definition of marriage in His Holy Word: “Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh” (Genesis 2:24, ESV).

In the New Testament, Jesus reiterated God’s definition of marriage: “From the beginning of creation, ‘God made them male and female.’ ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and hold fast to his wife’” (Mark 10:6–7). The court did not define marriage, and therefore it is not entitled to redefine it.

We read in the Scriptures how God judged Israel when they did not follow His laws. As a nation we have arrogantly turned our back on God, and I believe God’s judgment will come against our country. I don’t know any country on earth that has been more blessed than America, but it seems as though immorality not only reigns but is now celebrated.

There is no hope for this nation from any political party: Republican, Democrat, tea party, independent, or any other. The only hope for America is God, and that’s why I’m going to be holding Crusades in Oklahoma City and Birmingham in the next few weeks, to preach the truth of the Gospel that can bring real change in hearts and lives, not just now but for all eternity. And that’s why I’ll be going to all 50 states in 2016—to declare the Gospel of Jesus Christ, to call on the church to take a stand, to urge Christians to vote and to run for public office at every level, and to call the people of our nation to prayer and repentance.

We’re calling this the Decision America Tour, and we need your prayers and support as we put the 2016 schedule together. It is a huge undertaking to go to all 50 states in one year. We know we will have opposition, demonstrations, hecklers, and possibly threats. But this will not discourage or deter us from doing what God has called us to do. Start praying now, and I will give you more details as they develop.

Let me also share with you what God has just done in Ukraine and in the Faroe Islands. Ukraine continues to be on the verge of a war with Russia. Tensions are high. Russia has already annexed large portions of Ukraine—people on both sides are living in fear. Everyone I spoke with asked me to remind people to please pray for their country. I had received an invitation from the churches to come to the city of Lviv, located in Western Ukraine.

They were so thrilled when we accepted, and after much prayer, the time finally came for us to be there. The stadium was packed—standing room only. The mayor of the city and his wife were among the thousands who came. When the invitation was given, almost 1,700 people stepped forward to repent of their sins and accept Christ as their Savior. The mayor’s wife was one of them, making her way down to the front from the stadium’s skybox and accepting Christ as Savior. The local media recognized her and quickly gathered around to take pictures and ask her questions. She immediately began to share with them what Christ had done for her! That’s the power of the Gospel at work, and it was a joy to see.

From there we went to the Faroe Islands, a group of small, rocky islands that jut up out of the Atlantic Ocean halfway between Scotland and Iceland. The total population is only 49,000, and the night of our Crusade, nearly 5,000 people attended—that’s 10 percent of the population! We were grateful that the mayor, the speaker of Parliament, and the prime minister all came. The local TV station as well as a radio station carried our evangelistic message live to the entire Faroe Islands.

Our government has made a choice that directly contradicts God’s laws and standards. This will have a significant impact on the future of our nation. Pray for America. The only solution is a change in human hearts, and that comes from the power of the Gospel. We ask you to join us now—through your prayers and gifts—as we use every effective means to proclaim the life-changing message of repentance and faith in Jesus Christ.

May God richly bless you,

Franklin Graham
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Apostates et al during the End Times/ End of the Age

May 20th, 2015

I posted some time ago a ‘Warning” post regarding modern day preachers, both male and female, who were beginning to preach a “kingdom” era rather than the “age of grace” as in which we know we are.   I have a few more names to add, and another warning!

On the previous list were some names of possibly some who have passed on already, and now know the truth.  One of those is Paul Crouch Sr.  But I never considered him strong in doctrine, though he did grow over the years, but God used him to develop the largest Christian network in the world.

The hosts of the Life Today show,

James and Betty Robison,

have promulgated this false thinking of “Kingdom Now” doctrine, and also promotes Beth Moore and more recently Christine Caine, a British sounding female preacher who talks so fast you probably can’t catch the false doctrine easily.

These apostates are presenting a form of preterism.  Scripture disproves preterism. (Another topic.)

They promote a “world dominion” for today, in today’s current life!  Totally unscriptural.  I have yet to hear any of them speak to how the Jewish people today fit in, because most of them I suspect have the same idea that the “church” replaced Israel as God’s chosen–another false teaching.

While I may not agree with everything this person blogs, and neither should you without determining things for yourself even here, I give you some of what they call a background on this movement:

The ‘Kingdom Now Movement’ or ‘Latter Rain Movement’ realize that evangelicals know too much scripture to swallow the full Preterism (which denies that there will be any future dramas to worry about). So they are using Partial Preterism in a fairly successful attempt to “cloak” the Apostasy (2Thes.2:3) associated with 7 years peace treaty of Daniel 9:27 and the first half of the 70th Week, which is indeed up there in our future. These first 3.5 years will be a time in which the Harlot Religious System will assume global rule in consort with the False Messiah in his early peacemaking role. Of course this new upwelling Dominion Theology does not want this fact of Bible prophecy to be known. It does not want anything “negative”, (such as Bible Prophecy), to cast a shadow across its fanciful false dream of a triumphant global Church wrapping up history before the Second Coming of Messiah.

The Kingdom Now movement is gathering a following very quickly now. And Dominion Theology is conscripting an army of Utopian Christians, many of whom are quite sincere but do not know the Holy Scriptures and live on the carnal side of their nature. In all their political busy-ness and their running after charismatic religious personalities and men they are willing to call ‘apostles’ and ‘prophets’ they are just not reading their Bibles. They do not check up on what they are hearing as the noble Bereans did in times past. Nor are they embracing the Way of the cross or making the necessary spiritual preparation in the Holy Spirit against the coming night. Jesus brought a very solemn warning about this reckless and careless attitude. The Bridegroom is coming. But Christians are not preparing for the end time witness to which they were called. Jesus taught the parable of the ten virgins to warn us and to energize us to make personal preparation to go out and meet the Bridegroom, even in the black hours after midnight. This parable tells what happened to those who were careless. The five foolish virgins did not prepare themselves in the Spirit against the coming night. And so when the hour of trial came they were not ready. They came to the time of personal burnout. There was no oil supply or oil of anointing outside of themselves. So that was the end of their witness. They had previously rated the true and genuine oil of the Holy Spirit as unimportant. And so when the Bridegroom came they were not equipped to go out to meet Him. And it was too late to go back and make amends.

This is the most haunting parable Jesus ever told. Even now, the still small voice of the Holy Spirit is going out in a day of great deception and disinformation. The woman of wisdom is crying out in the streets. (Prov. 1) But many Western Christians today are just not listening. They are, however, listening to ‘Kingdom Now’ and ‘Reconstructionist’ preaching. They are responding to this unscriptural Utopian triumphalism, this dream of Dominion by the present day church-state system. They rather fancy this idea of a unified World Church taking over the world. The thought has apparently not occurred to them that the World Religion they have bought into will bring in a World government. And they have not considered that it’s establishment will eventually mean the loss of their freedom. http://endtimepilgrim.org/70wks9.htm

 

At this point I also wish to warn true Christians against accepting the idea that is being preached that we live in a POST-CHRISTIAN world.  How absurd!  This is just one more way to prepare the ignorant, and more sadly the current non-believers, for the coming anti-Christ so they will follow him in his “new world order” as he pretends to be Christ.

Unfortunately, as is the case with most poison, there is some good stuff being dished out with the apostasy.  Only a true Bible expert can tip toe through the mindfield and glean some encouragement or bit of wisdom.  TBN (Trinity Broadcasting Network) is slowly changing all it’s preachers over to these promotions of fallacy:  Kingdom Now, Post-Christian era. I commend Matthew Crouch for leaving the network (which he did before his father’s death.  That he was never mentioned all during the ongoing mourning of Paul Srs passing shows what a troubled family they are.)

I envisioned how the anti-Christ will take over the entire network to broadcast his apostasy after the rapture, during the tribulation.  I just had no imagination that it would begin prior to the rapture!

 

 

 

 

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Modernism’s influence in counseling discussions regarding spirituality

February 24th, 2015

There’s been so much debate and even arguing when someone like myself enters spirituality into a discussion… I did find a study (“Spiritual but not Religious?: Beyond Binary Choices in the Study of Religion.” Journal for the Scientific Study of Religion 52 (2):258-278) that I believe can help us with this..

First the issue as I see it  is that we don’t want (none of us want) someone proselytizing another, nor putting another person down, nor making fun of someone’s belief system.

This particular work cited above has an abstract of :

[quote]“Spirituality” often has been framed in social science research as an alternative to organized “religion,” implicitly or explicitly extending theoretical arguments about the privatization of religion. This article uses in-depth qualitative data from a religiously diverse U.S. sample to argue that this either/or distinction not only fails to capture the empirical reality of American religion, it does no justice to the complexity of spirituality. An inductive discursive analysis reveals four primary cultural “packages,” or ways in which people construct the meaning of spirituality in conversation: a Theistic Package tying spirituality to personal deities, an Extra-Theistic Package locating spirituality in various naturalistic forms of transcendence, an Ethical Spirituality focusing on everyday compassion, and a contested Belief and Belonging Spirituality tied to cultural notions of religiosity.

Spirituality, then, is neither a diffuse individualized phenomenon nor a single cultural alternative to “religion.”

Analysis of the contested evaluations of Belief and Belonging Spirituality allows a window on the “moral boundary work” being done through identifying as “spiritual but not religious.” The empirical boundary between spirituality and religion is far more orous than is the moral and political one.[/quote] (emphasis mine) Spiritual But Not Religious? Beyond Binary Choices in the Study of Religion – Ammerman – 2013 – Journal for the Scientific Study of Religion – Wiley Online Library

This is a widespread discussed topic. For instance in a blog located HERE “The Politics of Spirituality” is discussed.

WOW that covers two of the normally “forbidden topics of life” .

Anyway, in [quote] A Spiritual Strategy for Counseling and Psychotherapy a classic in the field published by the American Psychological Association, Richards & Bergin (1997) helpfully distinguish between what they call “ecumenical spirituality” and “denominational spirituality” (p. 238),

The former contains no “theological content or meaning that would identify the intervention with a specific religious tradition.” The content of this spirituality is “general, flexible, and as universal as possible so that they can be accepted and used with clients from a variety of religious and spiritual traditions” (p. 239).[/quote]He purports that Modernistic ideology is what currently drives the discussion of spirituality in a therapeutic situation. To me, that’s unfair to those who need more.

I find this statement FOUND HERE to be a good summation [quote]Spirituality, in particular, similarly cannot be properly understood generically. True spirituality, whether Buddhist, Muslim, New Age, or Christian, is always situated within a rich and thick sociocultural context. Yet most writing in this area in psychology (implicitly) assumes a universal, faith-neutral posture for discussing religion and spirituality—the viewpoint from nowhere in particular.[/quote] From Modernism and Its Impact on Spirituality

Okay, so you’re asking how did “Modernism” get into this discussion? It’s been there all the time! Here’s Webster’s “full definition” found HERE

[quote]
MODERNISM

1: a practice, usage, or expression peculiar to modern times

2 often capitalized : a tendency in theology to accommodate traditional religious teaching to contemporary thought and especially to devalue supernatural elements

3: modern artistic or literary philosophy and practice; especially : a self-conscious break with the past and a search for new forms of expression [/quote]

In essence modernism has taken the world into using current social mores of society and allowing some religiosity to intermingle, thus creating an “allowable” discussion of spirituality within the counseling session, for example.

I think that’s enough to chew upon for right now.   What this sums up to me is this:  we are all spiritual in some form or fashion, it’s part of our “self” and who we really are.  No two people acknowledge their own spirituality in the exact same way, but to ignore or deny it’s existence is, imo, preposterous.

to be continued….

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Heaven on Earth!

February 20th, 2015

PUT AWAY YOUR CURRENT REALITY FOR A LITTLE WHILE AND COME IMAGINE WITH ME…

 

Think of your most favorite…well, most favorite everything!  your most favorite place, person, food, music etc.: think of those.  And maybe not so much a past place or food but recall how you feel or felt when you experienced it.  Regain the wondrous feelings…

For myself I only need to recall beautiful places and experiences of my past. Places like the Clark national Forest, the Grand Canyon, the Petrified Forest, the Badlands, Ocala National Forest…the snows of the Midwest and Canada, the clear blue skies of New Mexico or the Bahamas.  What majestic and serene places!  How small I felt engulfed in their immensity–and how great God appeared to me through His handiwork.  A sense of awe, of wonder overcomes me even now recalling even though each of those places also represent effort and even mishap or pain.  I set that aside to enjoy the good stuff.

 

That’s what it will be like on earth in the future.  While there are countless millions–maybe billions–of people wishing for peace on earth, for a grand caring and respect for the earth now, there will be turmoil in the nearer future for them.  But the peace and beauty will eventually occur.

 

God has promised to “make all things new”.  I know many say the world will end–and soon.  God says the age will end soon (not the world, in fact He says “world without end”.)  We are in an age called “the age of grace” when God has not required His people to keep certain commandments or die, but a time where grace abounds: His loving kindness asks only for us to individually thank Him for His forgiveness for our wrong-doings.  That’s it.  Through Jesus we can have assurance that when He does “recreate” the earth, you’ll be  allowed to live here to enjoy it–to recreate and indulge in His remodelling.

 

Imagine again those wonderful feelings of love, peace, mystery, and awe or even of power and glory! IMAGINE THE GRAND CANYON ON STEROIDS AND THE REDWOOD FORESTS TIMES TEN!  Imagine God’s handiwork making the earth perfect for our enjoyment while we live and work peaceably with everyone else!

 

If I were you–and I used to be lost in my own ways of wrong-doing–I’d be talking to God for forgiveness. (I and every believer has done this, so it isn’t just “you”.)  What LOVE HE HAS!

 

Don’t miss the wonderful time to come, bathed in God’s love and glory living in a place more spectacular than even our best memories.  Make your reservation now: talk to God, he’s been waiting for your call.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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crISIS

February 5th, 2015

The Middle East is in crisis. ISIS’s gruesome crimes demand condemnation from all peoples, of all races and religions – especially the United States.

The atrocities committed by ISIS are comparable with the worst in history. But now it has been more than seven months since ISIS swept out of Syria and captured huge parts of Iraq’s territory, including Mosul, and the response of the West has been painfully ineffective.

Iraq and Syria are disappearing while ISIS creates a new Islamic state in the Middle East that is founded on a culture of unspeakable violence and hate.

President Obama is unwilling to acknowledge this grave threat to American national security and to all of Western civilization. ”

 

I personally think it’s WWIII.  And why not call it that?  The entire world (except for the States that ISIS have overtaken) is at war with these people.  (Please don’t be offended at the term “these people” unless you are one of them!)  Country after country are battling for CIVIL civilization.

Most recently Jordan with it’s new king tried to reason with the insanity of Islamists following Mohammed’s latter writings (you know, those “peaceful religious” terms of decapitating anyone who refuses to be an Islamist like they are) and tried to bargain with trades of convicted terrorist Islamists for the latest innocent victims chosen to give their lives for their “cause”…and what occurred?  The Islamists didn’t really want to trade, they wanted to behead more people!  And they did.

I commend the new King of Jordan for executing the convicted terrorists in response to ISIS’ insanity.

The world is in crISIS because we are not melding together to battle these people (come to think about it, they don’t act like human beings do they?)  Part of the reason is the world always looked to the USA to lead them.  Our radical president refuses to lead from the FRONT and prefers to manipulate others from behind (no telling what he’s doing back there).  He has the Islamic belief beat into him as a child by his father and his schooling that the USA is the world’s bully and we are an intolerable people.  No wonder he can’t find the ISIS group—nor any of the other terrorists–because he would be fighting his own beliefs.  How would that work?

 

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Psychcentral’s 20th Anniversary!

February 2nd, 2015

What an accomplishment! And congratulations to Dr John Grohol for his success.

I’ve just listened to most of the webinar (sorry, I had computer reluctance at first and then had to leave for an online class). Very interesting.  Was good to put an ongoing voice to the webmaster’s picture (though I had heard his voice mail a few times in the past.)

Interested in more of the future for Psychcentral, and hope I can be an active part of it.

Going forward, I think DocJohn has it well in hand.

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How to talk to Mr Obama…golfspeak!

September 5th, 2014

There seems to be a bit of confusion regarding what the President is saying.  And there seems to be an even bigger gap between what others–experts I might add–are telling him and what he appears to be hearing.  I have a suggestion.

Communication is key in all relationships. We must find the recipient of our message and relate to them on their level or the message is lost. Actually, there is no communication accomplished without a sender, receiver, and an UNDERSTOOD message.

So here’s my suggestion. Talk in golfspeak.

Begin with something like, Mr. President, we’re willing to give you a MULLIGAN. We realize that now we have ABNORMAL GROUND CONDITIONS that we need to consider.  The way you’re ALIGNING yourself and the way you’re ADDRESSING this play needs to change so we can have success and perhaps even an ACE on successive shots. The time of PUTTING and CHIP SHOTS is behind us and it’s time to put the PUTTER away. Pull out the DRIVER (WOOD) and let’s go for the long haul!  You still have 2 years to play.

Let’s have you take a STANCE next to your PARTNERS against the evil that besets the world.  We need the pro who will make the EAGLES fly.  Time to stop with the FAT strokes.  This is important.  It isn’t just about the PUTTING GREEN and the FAIRWAY…it’s about maneuvering the HAZARDS and claiming the prize at the 19TH HOLE.

We know you’re used to playing the EXECUTIVE COURSE, but come along with the rest of us now, and stay out of the CLUB HOUSE.  No more DUFFS.  Let’s play for the DOUBLE EAGLES and get ‘r done!  The USA needs your attention. Stop the FLOP SHOTS. Remove the IMPEDIMENTS, listen to your CADDIE and let the world hear the IMPACT of your STROKE against evil.

 

 

 

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Skepticism

July 27th, 2014

When the current young generation began using the term “bad” to mean good it did not go unnoticed by knowledgeable believers.  You see, many of us believers in God believe we live in the last days of society as we know it.  Included in the signs of the times is a prophetical statement by an Old Testament time prophet Isaiah.

In Isaiah chapter 5 and verse 20 he says: New American Standard Bible
Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness; Who substitute bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!

One does not have to venture far into this society to find exactly that occurring in various places.  One doesn’t even need to leave his home to discover this phenomena, if one has his eyes open.   Many arguments in forums for politics and current events ensue with it’s basic premise of who thinks what about what is acceptable what should be “tolerated” and what isn’t–all based upon the poster’s personal opinion and world view. They are skeptical of anything regarding a higher power called God Almighty.

Even on a Christian forum website that allows secular members and comments in such forums, it’s sometimes difficult to differentiate between the believer and non-believer based upon their world view.  Christians should have a Christian world view complete and created with the knowledge of God and His principles.  One cannot assume such a claim for secular humanists and other nonreligious unbelievers.

Indeed how is one to know what is truly good or what is truly bad unless they do have personal knowledge of God and His principles?  He can’t. She can’t know.  God says, “The natural man receives not the things of the Spirit of God for they are foolishness to him, neither can he know them for they are spiritually discerned.”  They refuse the foundation for truth and without said foundation their own imaginations are upon what they base their opinions, not on truth from God.

It should be a warning to those who have turned away from God’s love.  There is a time that it will be too late to change your mind.  Currently, some believers and all nonbelievers are enamored by seemingly miracles denoting truths they have chosen to believe.  Warning to all: God says that even evil can create miracles and mislead many away from salvation.

  Revelation 16:14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, [which] go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

It matters not how intelligent one is nor learned in philosophies such as Marxism, Humanism, Logical Positivism, Existentialism, Relativism, Pluralism, Secularismall different isms that have their distinctive characteristics that differentiate one of  them from the rest but they all have one thing in common:  skepticism with respect to the supernatural and to God…and so all of them share a common premise of phenomenology that it was manifest and ultimately in materialistic naturalism….  the point was…if you take God out of the equation there is no way to come to ultimate reality. You must be satisfied with the here and now, you can still speak of having truths but no truth…purposes but no purpose…existences but no essence…humans but no humanity… and so it goes and so what emerged is a form of relativism which in every period of skepticism in the history of theoretical thought in West skepticism has led to relativism and it’s twin sister pluralism.  R C Sproul World Conference Overcoming the World message 9.

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