Comments for A Blog of Thinking Allowed http://drjean.psychcentral.net A place for the contemplative thoughts of a philosopher. Thu, 20 Nov 2008 08:45:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=wordpress-mu-1.2.5 Comment on Public schools with Religious intent! by drjean http://drjean.psychcentral.net/2008/10/19/public-schools-with-religious-intent/#comment-1308 drjean Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:05:27 +0000 http://drjean.psychcentral.net/2008/10/19/public-schools-with-religious-intent/#comment-1308 mirla, one does not need to teach religion in school to allow faith to be there. Indeed, evidences of faith and activities of same occur in our Capitol building almost daily. In fact, it was home to many Sunday services during the times of the foundation of our country. You know, that's what makes this country different than all the rest. That's what makes this country better than most, in many respects. Our faith in God and our dedication to Him. This country began it's existence to do just that. One can live in any other country of their choosing, if they don't like it. I suppose, since you are against religion being taught in schools, and only wish to have scientific principles there, that you have contacted your congressman to protest the forced "becoming a muslim" weeks and also the teaching of evolution then? I surely hope so. I do hope you are true to your own beliefs. (For intellectual discussions about science and God, click on the link Reasons.org.) mirla, one does not need to teach religion in school to allow faith to be there. Indeed, evidences of faith and activities of same occur in our Capitol building almost daily. In fact, it was home to many Sunday services during the times of the foundation of our country.

You know, that’s what makes this country different than all the rest. That’s what makes this country better than most, in many respects. Our faith in God and our dedication to Him. This country began it’s existence to do just that. One can live in any other country of their choosing, if they don’t like it.

I suppose, since you are against religion being taught in schools, and only wish to have scientific principles there, that you have contacted your congressman to protest the forced “becoming a muslim” weeks and also the teaching of evolution then? I surely hope so. I do hope you are true to your own beliefs.

(For intellectual discussions about science and God, click on the link Reasons.org.)

]]> Comment on Public schools with Religious intent! by mirla http://drjean.psychcentral.net/2008/10/19/public-schools-with-religious-intent/#comment-1300 mirla Wed, 22 Oct 2008 03:23:04 +0000 http://drjean.psychcentral.net/2008/10/19/public-schools-with-religious-intent/#comment-1300 Just because religion founded schools doesn't mean that they still has to be taught in school. While it was one of the driving forces behind education, it also for many centuries before during the Middle Ages it was also the reason why even basic education was reserved for royalty because the catholic church had become corrupt with power. I firmly believe that those slogans were changed and that religion was no longer taught in public schools because as time progresses, many things in society change, for better or for worse. The people decided that because religion can niether be fully provenor disproven that it should not belong in an institution based on teaching children facts that have been proven and can be proven again if needed. Of course the higher you go in education the more abstract the information becomes and many alternatives may be explored simply because we don't know and may never know everything. My main problem is that when people try to advocate teaching religion is schools, it is mostly associated as an alternative to science. I personaly find that in modern society the scientific knowlege is much more valuable in order to survive in a very intellectualy competative international setting, no matter how spiritualy and emotionaly fullfulling religion may be. When it goes right down to religion versus science then it really comes down to either the vast knowlege of what someone thinks how something can be explained, versus the limited knowlege of what someone knows can be explained. Alot of things in religion cannot be proven and many ideas and consepts can be abstract with multiple interpretations, and with the exception of scientific theories, all of science can be proven because the only way something can become a law in scince is that it can be proven without a shadow of a doubt. If you want your children to learn religion there are also alternatives to public school that can get equaly as well of an education (if not better) such as private and catholic schools. Just because religion founded schools doesn’t mean that they still has to be taught in school. While it was one of the driving forces behind education, it also for many centuries before during the Middle Ages it was also the reason why even basic education was reserved for royalty because the catholic church had become corrupt with power. I firmly believe that those slogans were changed and that religion was no longer taught in public schools because as time progresses, many things in society change, for better or for worse. The people decided that because religion can niether be fully provenor disproven that it should not belong in an institution based on teaching children facts that have been proven and can be proven again if needed. Of course the higher you go in education the more abstract the information becomes and many alternatives may be explored simply because we don’t know and may never know everything.

My main problem is that when people try to advocate teaching religion is schools, it is mostly associated as an alternative to science. I personaly find that in modern society the scientific knowlege is much more valuable in order to survive in a very intellectualy competative international setting, no matter how spiritualy and emotionaly fullfulling religion may be. When it goes right down to religion versus science then it really comes down to either the vast knowlege of what someone thinks how something can be explained, versus the limited knowlege of what someone knows can be explained. Alot of things in religion cannot be proven and many ideas and consepts can be abstract with multiple interpretations, and with the exception of scientific theories, all of science can be proven because the only way something can become a law in scince is that it can be proven without a shadow of a doubt.

If you want your children to learn religion there are also alternatives to public school that can get equaly as well of an education (if not better) such as private and catholic schools.

]]> Comment on You think you know what “tolerance” is? Bet you’re wrong! by drjean http://drjean.psychcentral.net/2008/10/12/you-think-you-know-what-tolerance-is-bet-youre-wrong/#comment-1278 drjean Sun, 19 Oct 2008 18:40:02 +0000 http://drjean.psychcentral.net/2008/10/12/you-think-you-know-what-tolerance-is-bet-youre-wrong/#comment-1278 Mirla, telling others about the love of God is not a hate crime. The problem with the hate crime bills are they are overreaching. People can share their sexual preferences in all those places you mention, why not faith? Your comments are exactly the proof that people have tolerance for everything else, just not Christianity. What the issue is IS that we are not allowed to share our faith even without hurting another, with regard to the "hate crimes" bill. How tolerant is that? The time and place is here and now. America was founded to escape just such intolerances perpetrated upon the people in Old England. If we need another tea party, count me in! Mirla, telling others about the love of God is not a hate crime. The problem with the hate crime bills are they are overreaching. People can share their sexual preferences in all those places you mention, why not faith?

Your comments are exactly the proof that people have tolerance for everything else, just not Christianity. What the issue is IS that we are not allowed to share our faith even without hurting another, with regard to the “hate crimes” bill. How tolerant is that?

The time and place is here and now. America was founded to escape just such intolerances perpetrated upon the people in Old England. If we need another tea party, count me in!

]]> Comment on You think you know what “tolerance” is? Bet you’re wrong! by A http://drjean.psychcentral.net/2008/10/12/you-think-you-know-what-tolerance-is-bet-youre-wrong/#comment-1270 A Sun, 19 Oct 2008 00:55:30 +0000 http://drjean.psychcentral.net/2008/10/12/you-think-you-know-what-tolerance-is-bet-youre-wrong/#comment-1270 That's SO true! That’s SO true!

]]> Comment on You think you know what “tolerance” is? Bet you’re wrong! by mirla http://drjean.psychcentral.net/2008/10/12/you-think-you-know-what-tolerance-is-bet-youre-wrong/#comment-1244 mirla Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:21:50 +0000 http://drjean.psychcentral.net/2008/10/12/you-think-you-know-what-tolerance-is-bet-youre-wrong/#comment-1244 Tolerance works both ways, I tolerate christianity as well as other religions so long as they do not try to "spread the word" directly in my face. Unless your religion is like Islam and requires you to pray five times a day regardless of were you are or something similiar that requires you to practice outside of your own home or church. I leave my religion at my door out of respect for others, and I expect others to do the same. "Hate Crime" is alot more serious then you seem to make it out to be. If someone say, discrimainates against a gay person because it goes against their Christian beliefs then I would consider that a hate crime, the same way as if someone were discriminating against someone for their race. If someone wrote the word nigger on a black person's belongings that is a hat crime, the same way as calling someone a faggot because they are both offensive and derogitory terms. If someone says something that hurts your feelings then they should be confronted, not necessarily charged with any sort of crime, but it isn't okay either. Regardless of what you think is the truth there are no garuntees in this marvelous little planet we call earth. In the contexts of Christianity, I believe that god created people of many different variety, black, white, asian, gay, straight, who are we to doubt God's creation? To say something that he created in his own image to be an abomination? "If we don’t fight these efforts to create “hate crimes” bills, then we will be corralled and not allowed to speak God’s truth, not allowed to share and help others lost in their sin, not allowed to show the love of God through Word" There is a time and a place for everything. Some places are just not okay to share your beliefs with others. School is not a place, work is not a place, you will still have your freedom to share, but not in a way that is considered harmful to others. If someone cannot share their ideas without hurting someone then it is truely a sad world. Okay, getting off of my soapbox now. Tolerance works both ways, I tolerate christianity as well as other religions so long as they do not try to “spread the word” directly in my face. Unless your religion is like Islam and requires you to pray five times a day regardless of were you are or something similiar that requires you to practice outside of your own home or church. I leave my religion at my door out of respect for others, and I expect others to do the same.

“Hate Crime” is alot more serious then you seem to make it out to be. If someone say, discrimainates against a gay person because it goes against their Christian beliefs then I would consider that a hate crime, the same way as if someone were discriminating against someone for their race. If someone wrote the word nigger on a black person’s belongings that is a hat crime, the same way as calling someone a faggot because they are both offensive and derogitory terms. If someone says something that hurts your feelings then they should be confronted, not necessarily charged with any sort of crime, but it isn’t okay either.

Regardless of what you think is the truth there are no garuntees in this marvelous little planet we call earth.

In the contexts of Christianity, I believe that god created people of many different variety, black, white, asian, gay, straight, who are we to doubt God’s creation? To say something that he created in his own image to be an abomination?

“If we don’t fight these efforts to create “hate crimes” bills, then we will be corralled and not allowed to speak God’s truth, not allowed to share and help others lost in their sin, not allowed to show the love of God through Word”

There is a time and a place for everything. Some places are just not okay to share your beliefs with others. School is not a place, work is not a place, you will still have your freedom to share, but not in a way that is considered harmful to others. If someone cannot share their ideas without hurting someone then it is truely a sad world.

Okay, getting off of my soapbox now.

]]> Comment on Say NO to “O” by Liza's Eyeview http://drjean.psychcentral.net/2008/09/30/say-no-to-o-2/#comment-1175 Liza's Eyeview Fri, 03 Oct 2008 03:38:44 +0000 http://drjean.psychcentral.net/2008/09/30/say-no-to-o-2/#comment-1175 Thank you for making a stand and sharing your point of view. I don't watch Oprah and will not watch it. Actually, we do not even have a TV connected to network channel. Anyway, may Christians who watch her show be as discerning as you are ... Thank you for making a stand and sharing your point of view.
I don’t watch Oprah and will not watch it. Actually, we do not even have a TV connected to network channel. Anyway, may Christians who watch her show be as discerning as you are …

]]> Comment on A “small” miracle from God tonight by rapunzel http://drjean.psychcentral.net/2008/09/18/a-small-miracle-from-god-tonight/#comment-1140 rapunzel Fri, 26 Sep 2008 04:13:58 +0000 http://drjean.psychcentral.net/2008/09/18/a-small-miracle-from-god-tonight/#comment-1140 That really was nifty. :) That really was nifty. :)

]]> Comment on The Real Fruit of the Spirit by mcw http://drjean.psychcentral.net/2008/08/03/the-real-fruit-of-the-spirit/#comment-955 mcw Tue, 26 Aug 2008 04:56:52 +0000 http://drjean.psychcentral.net/2008/08/03/the-real-fruit-of-the-spirit/#comment-955 has been that person in your post above more times than one cares to count. has been that person in your post above more times than one cares to count.

]]> Comment on You’re that important! by Thierry http://drjean.psychcentral.net/2008/06/06/youre-that-important/#comment-910 Thierry Sun, 17 Aug 2008 02:04:42 +0000 http://drjean.psychcentral.net/2008/06/06/youre-that-important/#comment-910 Hi I just wanted thank you for your advice! i'm the french student 'Sufboy' from the 'Psych central Answers'! i will try to see a therapist or something like that to try to help me. Thank you very much! i hope you are fine, and that everything is ok for you :) Best, thierry Hi

I just wanted thank you for your advice! i’m the french student ‘Sufboy’ from the ‘Psych central Answers’!
i will try to see a therapist or something like that to try to help me. Thank you very much! i hope you are fine, and that everything is ok for you :)
Best,
thierry

]]> Comment on Misjudging Judas by drjean http://drjean.psychcentral.net/2008/03/21/misjudging-judas/#comment-838 drjean Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:58:54 +0000 http://drjean.psychcentral.net/2008/03/21/misjudging-judas/#comment-838 Hell was not originally created for mankind. When Lucifer, the greatest archangel in heaven, allowed his power to go to his "head" so to speak, and determined he would be God, he sinned. A third of the angels in heaven followed him. God could not, and can not, allow evil in heaven in His presence. God threw them out of His heaven, down to the earth. Man was created to bring fellowship to God. Not like the angels who served Him, but someone with a free will that would honor and serve Him because he wanted to...which is exactly why Lucifer, who's newer name is Satan, was able to con man into also sinning against God. Because of that, the hell that God created for the fallen angels, now also will hold those who rebel against God's perfection and love. Without the saving grace of God, without accepting God's love gift of Christ's death, burial and resurrection to cover our sin-through-birth because we are of Adam, a sinful person, we cannot enter heaven. Without Christ, we would end up in hell, the place created for the fallen angels. BTW, there is more written historically about Christ and His life and miracles, than there is about Caesar who lived at the same time. You don't doubt Caesar lived, do you? It is only man's (woman's) pride that keeps him from accepting God's love, and His way of getting to heaven. It isn't a requirement that He created because He is a demanding God. It's a way He provided at high cost, to counter what evil did to His creation...so that we may still live with Him in heaven. God is all about Love. He is Love. Don't resist His Love. This isn't about hatred or a vengeful God wanting anyone to "jump through hoops" for His pleasure. It's about His providing a way for eternal happiness, which is what He desired for us in the first place. Hell was not originally created for mankind. When Lucifer, the greatest archangel in heaven, allowed his power to go to his “head” so to speak, and determined he would be God, he sinned. A third of the angels in heaven followed him. God could not, and can not, allow evil in heaven in His presence. God threw them out of His heaven, down to the earth.
Man was created to bring fellowship to God. Not like the angels who served Him, but someone with a free will that would honor and serve Him because he wanted to…which is exactly why Lucifer, who’s newer name is Satan, was able to con man into also sinning against God. Because of that, the hell that God created for the fallen angels, now also will hold those who rebel against God’s perfection and love.
Without the saving grace of God, without accepting God’s love gift of Christ’s death, burial and resurrection to cover our sin-through-birth because we are of Adam, a sinful person, we cannot enter heaven. Without Christ, we would end up in hell, the place created for the fallen angels.
BTW, there is more written historically about Christ and His life and miracles, than there is about Caesar who lived at the same time. You don’t doubt Caesar lived, do you?
It is only man’s (woman’s) pride that keeps him from accepting God’s love, and His way of getting to heaven. It isn’t a requirement that He created because He is a demanding God. It’s a way He provided at high cost, to counter what evil did to His creation…so that we may still live with Him in heaven. God is all about Love. He is Love. Don’t resist His Love. This isn’t about hatred or a vengeful God wanting anyone to “jump through hoops” for His pleasure. It’s about His providing a way for eternal happiness, which is what He desired for us in the first place.

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